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so

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citizens

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what's up everybody we're starting this

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off right

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we're calling michael freaking bennett

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from colorado um

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because why not we have to make sure we

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make at least

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one call every day hello you have

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reached the southwest regional office of

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united states senator

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michael bennett michael bennett if you

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have reached this message during

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business hours we're going to put a

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slowly so we can

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your local county health department and

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office of emergency management during

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this difficult time

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thank you oh here we go

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hello mr bennett my name is sean and i'm

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calling as a concerned citizen

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um in regards to the uap incursions

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off the west coast um they were swarming

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our navy and um so i just wanted to give

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a call

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in hopes for some transparency um

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whatever you can do to push this report

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forward to get us some clarification

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um on what's going on uh that would be

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just great so um i appreciate you

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um taking the time and i hope this

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message finds you well

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oh right

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we will get a human though guarantee

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well it could be an alien human like a

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walk-in

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[Laughter]

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but we'll get one right for sure okay so

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we have steven green street on today

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uh that's gonna be awesome

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um he's gonna hop on in

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about a half hour or less at two o'clock

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so if you're here for green street um

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and you got a busy day now's the time to

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go get a snack or some water or

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something like that

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come back um we got them for like 15

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minutes maybe we'll get them for more

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who knows

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um that is yet to be determined

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first thing i wanted to do here today

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go over what my personal

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mission is i know that i have not

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been clear with that and maybe it's been

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but i guess i haven't put it into words

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it's been more of an action

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and as i say that i realize that my

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mission

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is action what have you done in your

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life without

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an action what have you ever got in your

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life without

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an action whether it's a job a loved one

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like a

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husband or wife a house

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none of that is possible without your

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actions

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and this is no different sure some

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things take

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more actions but it's just

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actions and so if we have the recipe

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let's bake the freaking cake

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right can i get a

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come on you i don't know give me a f

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yeah

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the first statement of my mission put

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right i control what i can do

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i'm putting that power in my hands i'm

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making calls

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in the hopes that we can push this

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forward and get some transparency from

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the government

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number two actions actions actions

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number three integrity everything must

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done with now integrity

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basically what i mean

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is intent good honest pure

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that's important to me i've lost jobs

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over integrity

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in holding on to my integrity i've lost

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for holding on to integrity but it's too

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late now

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you know but at the end of the day

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when i take my final rest i want to be

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that i lived with integrity that i made

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and that really ties into why i'm doing

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that i can be a part of it is to be

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and i make actions and so in doing that

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last but not least i'm fighting

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70 years of people being whether it's uh

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abducted or saw something and ridiculed

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people that genuinely had experiences

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and not a single person you know

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wants to help them figure it out so in

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i am fighting for what we all deserve

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you ought to know that i'm so right

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thanks man i appreciate it amen yes

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i love it i'm glad you're vibing on this

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because it's from the heart

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we have this report coming up rumors

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rumors about a nothing burger

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rumors that it might even come out today

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but i'll tell you right now

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it is a mistake to pin our

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hopes on this report

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and we can hope that it's something but

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put so much onto it because

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you know we've gotten this far so

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whatever happens with the report

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whatever we've gotten so far

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and it would be a pity to put it all on

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one report and not assume

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and know and be prepared for further

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actions no matter what happens with this

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even if it comes out and they're

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forthright with a lot

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you know they say there's things in the

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skies we don't know what they are

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we're looking into it well guess what

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you know we want more

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here i am not

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what i'm being what i'm doing is being

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organized for the future

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the report's coming up but we should be

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looking past the report looking

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through the report what happens after

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assuming because anything that comes

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we're still gonna have to act we're

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still gonna have to do things

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you know and if they are

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transparent what are they going to do

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with everything

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so we will still need our actions to

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is done with integrity and honesty

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it reminds me of john greenwald if this

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then you're paying attention to the

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wrong topic

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for those of you unfamiliar uh john

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he runs the black vault and he's been

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looking into lou elizondo for

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three years trying to get his emails

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trying to corroborate anything

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whether it's to back him up

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or proves that he's lying

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you know and when it comes to something

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that's huge you can't

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you can't hate the guy for trying to get

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more information because

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and he's doing this for three years

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putting in foia requests for his emails

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getting denied appealing winning the

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they don't have anything he tells them

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how to do their job have you searched

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with this

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word or this word or that word

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greenworld's telling them how to do

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their job

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and they still say ah nothing can't find

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what does that sound like sounds like

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when george knapp

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called certain people

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in regards to a bob lazar nothing

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nothing i just heard the

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reheard the story of him calling the

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head hunter that hired bob lazar

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to work at los alamos who at first said

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yes we have his records

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yes we'll share them well some time went

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now how does greenwald get paid

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back for all that time

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and effort and passion

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that he put into that how does he get

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paid back for that

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and what does the pentagon or susan gao

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it could have been deleted last year

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but also last year after the fact when

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they could have been deleted

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they were still going through appeal

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greenwald and the pentagon about these

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that were deleted so what are we talking

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you know but that's why i'm here you

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know and i can't do everything on my

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myself i got 700 followers today

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and that is such a good sign that means

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are on the same wavelength and

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that you wanna see things gonna get done

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and you wanna make your own you wanna do

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your own actions whether it's a call or

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what's up alien girl i can't help but

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girl every time i see that

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um the report is supposed to come out

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and then there's rumors about it you

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but and it's gonna come up in every

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other way there's rumors

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i just made the point that whatever

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happens we know that we're gonna still

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have to push forward

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through it so let's hope for the best

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if it is not up to our expectations

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which judging by history it will not be

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we are definitely at a climax as far as

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ufology

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and if the pentagon does not see that

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they are

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as technology advances disclosure is

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you know we'll know what it is

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regardless

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stuff is really

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fox reported about two hours ago that it

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could come out today

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i've heard that from somebody else but

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this is all just like twitter talk i

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have no idea

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and i'd be interested to see what

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fox like it may come out today are they

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watching twitter for the rumors

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[Laughter]

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if that was the case we could throw some

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wacky stuff out there and just get them

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oh yeah well i mean the thing with

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msm is uh

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we need them to report this honestly and

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with integrity but it's also something

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so unfamiliar with how to cover

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something that is bipartisan

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basically with the passion

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they only have passions for slinging mud

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so here we are with a possible beautiful

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very beautiful bipartisan issue

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and i think they just don't know what to

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what do you think

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yeah yeah me too

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yeah they probably get all of our info

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from here on twitter

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definitely so anyways

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yeah the greenwald thing um just

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losing three years of time on this

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for the pentagon to just say

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you know the emails are deleted

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you couldn't even give a better reason

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they were just deleted

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they are going to be in a lot of trouble

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because i guarantee you that

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you know what i mean

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they're going to be in a lot of trouble

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and lou's going after him

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lou's going after him because of the

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[\h__\h] that they've been doing for

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to him personally in the last three

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years but really this is a fight that

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goes

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and damn who's putting it on his

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shoulders that's what another reason i'm

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doing this and making calls

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is because that man can't do it alone

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and it's so easy to just look at twitter

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and see people doing stuff and feel like

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you are too but that is

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you have to do something for yourself

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and watching it happen and go by

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that's how social media lulls you into

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complacency

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is by watching other people do stuff and

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allowing you to feel like you are too

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and i'm not saying talking to you you

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know

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we have a short attention span these

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days that's why we like twitter we post

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something somebody likes it our

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endorphins go off

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and then we do it again we repeat and we

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don't want to lose that

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so we keep and say the same sort of

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stuff to get that reaction again

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and that's dangerous when it comes to

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stuff like this because you cannot be

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and if you don't get a heart and an

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endorphin release

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you know like anything

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social media or anything else is is up

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to the user in the intent of

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that user and so it can be someone's

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and in this in transparency

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imagine if everyone on ufo twitter

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tweeted the same congress person

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or whatever at the same exact time

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that would that would be huge

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i think they would get the point versus

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you know and they maybe scroll through

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or look at it their assistant does or

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whatever

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but imagine if thousands of people

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posted the same exact thing at the same

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time on the same congressperson's

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account

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that we are on the same page

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and at that point in time it to be

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with that being said i'm pumped i'm

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let's call the other number

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i do have to come up with the script

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it's funny like lou from uh

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unidentified was telling me hey you

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gotta use the script dude and

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it's like i've been doing this actually

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for like

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i don't know business doing this stuff

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so i'm like

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yes let's do it yes

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how we gonna get a hold of everyone make

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oh my is this alien speak

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it's a fax machine

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one day i will be able to put my words

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onto a fax

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i mean from my mouth you pr i probably

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could do that eh

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like uh siri or something what's up

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julie good to see you here

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uh we got green street in about eight

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and he's you know i'm gonna talk like

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really fast

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when he gets on so i can just ask so

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many questions

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of united states senator michael bennett

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if you have reached this message during

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business hours we are assisting others

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we check voicemail regularly please

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leave a message for senator bennett or

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our regional staff alyssa logan and we

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will return the call as quickly as

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possible

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please speak slowly so we can retrieve

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your message accurately

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we encourage you to follow guidance

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provided by the center for disease

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control

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your local county home and office of

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emergency management during this

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difficult time

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thank you at the tone please record your

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message

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when you've finished recording

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it'll make a difference hi uh senator

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bennett this is

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um sean i'm giving a call today in

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regards to the

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uap report due to congress with the

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recent incursions of the west coast

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um in the swarming of our navy ships you

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can imagine how us citizens are

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concerned

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so anything you can do to push the

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um transparency

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and further details um onto this report

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that would be fantastic um

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i hope this finds you well um and i have

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your back

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whatever you do have a great day go

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there you go i got the go rockies in for

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you

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[Laughter]

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oh what's that i gotta find that uh

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comment that you left

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for for the mention the rockies

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i want to mention other oh great call

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nice call sean

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thanks i mean you sound so normal

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i mean like i'm not kidding i own a

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business where do they do this

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where i train them to do this stuff and

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that's because you know i have done it

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for years like for businesses

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and no it's not like inside sales like

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i'm gonna

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you know be sneaky or whatever it's

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always done with honesty

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and integrity right because if you try

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to

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or whatever it doesn't hold up

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it's only until a matter of time until

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they start second guessing why they did

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it

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and they blame you for muddying the

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waters

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so you have to be honest and do it with

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integrity

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and for instance if it is a sale if it's

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not right for them

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you have to be able to acknowledge that

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and agree with it

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you know because if you do

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and that thing changes and they do

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want to do something they're going to

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remember the person

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he sold a television here's a good one

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my father is a salesman he sold a

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television to a blind man once he

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explained

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well that's kind of true i guess oh that

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reminds me did you guys see um

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neither did he okay

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all right that's bad

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that's bad i'm sorry okay

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uh oh thanks yeah

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um like refurbished it and stuff she

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loves doing that

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okay i got one more joke for you i know

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we're getting off track here but we're

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killing time green street's gonna be

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here in four minutes so

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um bad chill kickles yeah well you don't

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all right so um the other day

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i called in to work and i said

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you know i don't think i could come in

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today

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i'm not feeling good and they said

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you're not feeling good

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it's like yeah i think i'm going blind

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he said you're going blind

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i said yeah i can't see myself coming in

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all right all right um

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so i'm gonna make a challenge to you

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guys to do

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some actions yourself whatever it is

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and it can be fun it's not a burden

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you know it should leave you feeling

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you know in it i'm telling you just to

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call

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about the uap report

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00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:19,760
anything you could do great bye

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00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:22,960
scripts on if you follow

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00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:25,200
unidentified celebrity review that are

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really professional

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00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:28,559
in really great scripts and i would

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recommend

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reading it from that and don't worry if

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you screw up or

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you know you don't put the proper breath

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after a comma or whatever

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you know just do it and just like

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everything else it gets

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00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:48,080
so much easier after the first

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time because you realize it's not that

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bad

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00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:55,919
you know whenever somebody starts in the

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00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:58,159
call center or whatever cheers from

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italy

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00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:03,440
hello how are you thanks for joining us

498
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:06,000
um when everybody's someone starts in

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00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:07,679
the call center they're always nervous

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until they talk to somebody they get

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life still exists and everything's fine

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you know so allow that

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to settle in and allow it

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00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:32,399
to allow you to fail more because you

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know you're picking up

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that stuff that you learn when you fail

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and one day you'll be a cold-calling

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um but yeah even an email

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is good whatever

510
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like i'm not i'm not too good at the

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email stuff

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but i'm great over the phone or talking

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to people well at least i'd like to

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think i am

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so that's the route i go but we can all

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feed off of each other just like how

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some people are into the nuts and bolts

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aspect of this and some people are into

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00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:14,000
the consciousness

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we can all feed off of each other and

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build something to get some truth

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right because how often is truth really

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00:29:31,029 --> 00:29:26,480
only

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00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:36,630
in one opinion

525
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:40,870
in its opinion you know

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00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:42,799
sometimes truth doesn't even exist in

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facts because there are more facts

528
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:55,750
i don't know where i was going with that

529
00:30:01,350 --> 00:29:59,120
but yeah um anything you guys could do

530
00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:01,360
would be cool if you like share and

531
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:03,039
subscribe my youtube channel

532
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:06,080
or um you know like

533
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:08,559
me on twitter or anything like that let

534
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:10,080
me know i'll make an extra phone call

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00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:11,919
for you

536
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:14,880
um so we are at the half hour mark and

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the best part

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00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:20,000
of everyone's day has come

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00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:22,960
if you don't know what i mean i'll tell

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you

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all the way from the basement office

542
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i have a very special guest steven

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00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:33,039
greenstreet how are you

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doing pretty good man good thanks for

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00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:36,559
joining

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00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:38,480
yeah thanks for having me on uh i'm

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going to move this stupid

548
00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:44,080
banner off your forehead there you go

549
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:47,440
that's okay yeah there you go

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00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:50,159
yeah no cool um so you still look like

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00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:52,080
you did yesterday which apparently

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00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:55,600
is not the normal stephen

553
00:31:02,149 --> 00:30:59,120
no no things have changed

554
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:02,159
that sounded very basement man i'm out

555
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:03,120
of the basement you got

556
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:07,279
got some sun i'm nowhere near the base

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00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:08,880
well i can tell because you don't have a

558
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:14,149
all right so i know you're kind of

559
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:16,159
scrapped for time so

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i don't want to waste it so i'll get

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into

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00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:22,320
uh the questions i have for you first

563
00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:23,840
one is

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you know having watched you even

565
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:27,120
yesterday

566
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:29,760
on identified celebrity review you make

567
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:31,679
it clear that you don't like to be

568
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:34,080
pigeonholed in one side of this topic

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00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:35,440
whether it be

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00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:37,120
you know it's aliens or foreign or

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00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:40,320
interdimensional or whatever

572
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:43,440
now with where we are today with 60

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minutes with the

574
00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:48,960
report with uh lou elizondo's emails

575
00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:50,000
being deleted

576
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:53,360
like where are you now it does

577
00:31:58,830 --> 00:31:55,039
is it becoming increasingly more

578
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:01,590
uh

579
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:05,279
no because honestly like

580
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:09,200
like honestly i had a a kind of paradigm

581
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:09,679
shift

582
00:32:16,190 --> 00:32:12,960
just a few weeks ago um

583
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:16,200
where i was kind of leaning towards the

584
00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:17,440
extraordinary

585
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:21,519
the alien the otherworldly

586
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:26,080
bucket and then i read uh

587
00:32:29,269 --> 00:32:28,799
tyler rogoway's article in in the war

588
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:29,279
zone

589
00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:32,399
on how a lot of these

590
00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:35,600
uap sightings the ones that have been

591
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:36,640
covered in

592
00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:40,720
widely in the media are probably not

593
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:42,840
otherworldly at all are not

594
00:32:49,389 --> 00:32:44,480
extraordinary at all

595
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:49,399
and are probably literally actually our

596
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:51,600
adversaries

597
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:55,120
uh spying on us essentially um

598
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:57,360
and that was like a big hedge gift for

599
00:33:02,070 --> 00:32:59,200
me because

600
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:02,080
you know everything everything that

601
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:03,200
comes out about

602
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:06,080
this topic everything just gets thrown

603
00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:07,679
into the same bucket

604
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:10,399
you know uh pilots balloon type object

605
00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:11,360
uf

606
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:16,480
you know they saw literally a quadcopter

607
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:18,000
drone up it's a ufo

608
00:33:22,389 --> 00:33:20,240
uh everything's just thrown in and what

609
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:22,399
i loved about and what blew my mind

610
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:24,559
about this tyler rogueway article was

611
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:26,480
that he sifted through

612
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:28,240
and he said yes there are some

613
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,200
extraordinary cases like the tic tac etc

614
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:33,840
but a lot of these are actually they

615
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:35,840
seem very terrestrial

616
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:38,880
very you know spitting image of you know

617
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:41,360
what an adversary would use to spy on us

618
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:42,240
essentially

619
00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:45,120
yet no one is really no one is really

620
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:45,760
kind of

621
00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:48,480
hyper focusing on that and so the last

622
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:49,600
few weeks i've been having that

623
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:51,279
conversation of like well we need to

624
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:53,360
really concentrate on on these

625
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:55,919
on these cases well my mission here and

626
00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:57,120
on this show and everything

627
00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:59,440
is putting the actions into my own hands

628
00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:00,640
you know doing something whether it's

629
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:02,559
making a phone call calling congress a

630
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:04,000
senator whatever

631
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:06,320
and one of the reasons that i'm doing

632
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:07,760
that is because

633
00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:11,200
of the very reason

634
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:14,480
you know we're confused you know because

635
00:34:17,669 --> 00:34:16,159
an article like that can come out and

636
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:17,679
throw you off course or

637
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:19,440
something else can come out and put you

638
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:21,679
back in the interdimensional thing

639
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:23,280
and the reason we keep going back and

640
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,040
forth and filling in these blanks is

641
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:27,599
because we're not getting honesty

642
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:31,040
you know so yeah i

643
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:33,440
yeah there's honesty but there's also

644
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:35,280
like um

645
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:37,200
uh there's a neat there's a knee-jerk

646
00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:39,119
kind of instinctual

647
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:43,280
reaction to like the ufo

648
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:46,399
uh news to ufo concept

649
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:49,599
the ufo phenomenon to uh

650
00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:53,119
lump it together with um you know it's

651
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:53,839
fun

652
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:59,440
and they've always been a form of

653
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:01,440
entertainment and sci-fi and

654
00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:04,720
pop culture it's a form of escapism

655
00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:07,280
in a way to to imagine it's real oh my

656
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:08,880
god to even imagine it

657
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:12,560
is so thrilling you know and so

658
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:14,079
everything kind of goes through that

659
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:16,320
filter i think naturally it's nobody's

660
00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:18,000
fault it naturally goes through that

661
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:19,599
filter with anyone who's reading the

662
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:20,560
story

663
00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:22,640
and on the other side of that filter it

664
00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:23,760
becomes

665
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:27,440
lot of stuff gets lost

666
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:29,359
i think in that process you've got to be

667
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:30,560
able to pull back and be like okay

668
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:31,599
what's the real

669
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:34,480
here right and i think the answer might

670
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:36,160
be

671
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:38,720
various different things like he said it

672
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:40,320
could be

673
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:44,160
taking advantage of

674
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:47,520
our fascination with ufos

675
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:51,359
and there could also be ufos in that mix

676
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:54,400
um as you know they do exist

677
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:57,119
you've seen one yeah i believe you i

678
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,160
believe

679
00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:00,320
yeah some it's something interesting

680
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:01,920
about your personal experience if you

681
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:02,640
don't mind

682
00:36:07,109 --> 00:36:05,760
um because i can relate you said this to

683
00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:07,119
nick pope you said

684
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:11,920
this sounds weird but it felt personal

685
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:12,640
yeah

686
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:16,079
and mine was more personal than you can

687
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:16,720
imagine

688
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:20,800
it had to do with family stuff like

689
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:23,599
it was a crazy time in my life when that

690
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:24,320
happened to me

691
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:27,839
when i saw what i saw and i remember

692
00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:30,320
even looking at it thinking like what is

693
00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:31,440
it just

694
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:33,359
trying to say hi to me because it was

695
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:35,520
like in my vision

696
00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:37,280
you know like it went right in front of

697
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:39,920
my vision and it just leaves you like

698
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:41,359
kind of shaking and

699
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:45,520
you know what to think of that so

700
00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:49,200
sometimes it seems like the answers

701
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:52,640
might not be accessible

702
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:57,119
and maybe they are just for us who knows

703
00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:59,839
no it could be i mean you know i find it

704
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:00,800
hard to

705
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:03,760
when nick said that to me what did he

706
00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:05,040
say he said it was almost like you were

707
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:07,680
being shown something

708
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:11,599
i'm like okay yeah like okay i can speak

709
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:14,640
to the fact yeah i can i can speak to

710
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:15,920
the fact that it did

711
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:19,040
feel how i felt like i i know

712
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:21,040
how i felt and i did honestly feel that

713
00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:23,680
way it was a cold kind of like

714
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:25,040
unfamiliar feeling

715
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:27,760
and uh it was almost like in the

716
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:30,000
afterwards of thinking back to it

717
00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:31,520
i referred to it as a personal

718
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:33,280
experience because like you just said it

719
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:34,640
was almost

720
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:40,800
was saying hey look at this

721
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:43,920
hey completely check check this out

722
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:46,000
it's a really weird way to think about

723
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:46,960
it but

724
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:49,520
that's just how i feel in retrospect

725
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:51,520
well the frustrating part is

726
00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:56,230
what am i supposed to do with this you

727
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:57,760
know yeah i mean

728
00:38:02,150 --> 00:38:00,800
i i mean yeah

729
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:02,160
yeah you're breaking up a lot i didn't

730
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:03,599
really do i mean i told him i told nick

731
00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:05,200
this but i

732
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:08,800
yeah all right you am i here

733
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:11,599
am i there yeah i got you thumbs up one

734
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:12,160
thumbs up

735
00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:14,720
okay you got me yep i got you all right

736
00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:15,520
great

737
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:17,599
all right cool yeah so like i didn't do

738
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:19,040
anything with it

739
00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:22,000
i mean honestly beyond like think about

740
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:24,320
it a little bit i just like

741
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:26,160
part of my brain was just like oh that

742
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:27,760
was just a government

743
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,839
experimental aircraft you know where i

744
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:31,200
was geographic

745
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:35,760
were two air force bases like within

746
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:36,800
driving distance

747
00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:40,079
of where i was and then area 51 was due

748
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:41,119
west so i was like

749
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:44,400
okay i guess that was the b3 or

750
00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:49,040
b4 bomber you know with a muzzle on it

751
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:52,079
yeah with a silencer

752
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:55,599
it's a new option we got yeah

753
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:57,839
um yeah no it was crazy hearing that

754
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:59,040
story um

755
00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:00,880
was there anything going on in your

756
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:02,400
personal life at the time that was kind

757
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:04,240
of like dramatic or anything

758
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,680
let me ask you you don't have to tell me

759
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:07,440
what it is just like i guess there has

760
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:09,040
never been a moment in my life when

761
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,910
i think there's something to that well

762
00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:15,839
you grew up mormon you said so i'm sure

763
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:17,359
that wasn't yeah yeah

764
00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:20,640
yeah yeah well okay same thing

765
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:23,680
so at the time so this was 2003

766
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:27,040
at the at the time that i saw this

767
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:30,240
i was in my own personal process of

768
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:31,760
leaving the church

769
00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:34,800
of leaving the mormon faith

770
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:37,680
um and i was basically my whole life in

771
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:39,520
the mormon faith and so

772
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:42,560
yeah uh fall of 2003 until the end

773
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:45,359
of 2004 was like me basically leaving

774
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:46,400
and

775
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:49,280
um funny enough like where i saw the ufo

776
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:51,440
was outside the mormon

777
00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:54,240
uh film studio there in provo utah they

778
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:55,040
make their own

779
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:56,800
like movies in the church and i was a

780
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:58,800
production assistant

781
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:01,280
and uh i was yeah i was helping them

782
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:03,119
make a mormon movie

783
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:06,400
when i saw a ufo that

784
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:08,960
i mean you know some people are willing

785
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:10,240
to go

786
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:13,280
there and explore more if if you're

787
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:15,359
interested in opinion there's something

788
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:18,880
to that like that that

789
00:40:26,309 --> 00:40:22,960
huge transition in your life

790
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:26,319
and that's when you see something

791
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:29,520
what are the chances but you know um

792
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:37,430
nick's rad nick is so rad

793
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:39,599
you know when we uh when we started

794
00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:41,359
doing the basement office

795
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:43,599
we had like a list of folks who i felt

796
00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:45,440
would be great co-hosts

797
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:47,119
and nick was obviously at the top of the

798
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:49,119
list and we just kind of sent out

799
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,480
a cold call just like emails to people

800
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:54,480
and i honestly didn't think we'd get any

801
00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:56,240
of them and nick like replied almost

802
00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:58,079
immediately and was like hell yeah let's

803
00:41:02,630 --> 00:40:59,599
do this

804
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:02,640
and originally we only brought him on to

805
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:06,000
be in like one maybe two episodes

806
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:09,440
and we were gonna have every other

807
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:11,440
episode would have like a new co-host

808
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:15,040
and but nick like as soon as he came out

809
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:16,560
like our chemistry like we were just

810
00:41:18,829 --> 00:41:18,319
like boom like that and we're just like

811
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:18,839
no

812
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,960
what was your what was it the

813
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,640
this is probably hard in this topic but

814
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:28,480
what was the biggest head scratcher

815
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:29,359
episode

816
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:32,400
where you left like i don't know

817
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:36,640
what that's about oh

818
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:38,880
okay without a doubt it's episode six

819
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:40,720
which is about jim penniston's

820
00:41:45,750 --> 00:41:42,480
account the rendles from trying yeah i

821
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:47,910
as for an episode of uh i hope that

822
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:49,520
plane isn't too loud hold on

823
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:52,720
no that's fun okay um

824
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:54,960
yeah so as for head scratcher episodes

825
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:56,000
for me personally

826
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:58,240
uh penniston's story was definitely the

827
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,560
most head scratcher one for me i mean

828
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:02,720
there's so much great i don't know i

829
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:04,400
don't want to say crazy but there's so

830
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:08,960
much stuff involved with this testimony

831
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:11,200
touching the thing yeah yeah touching

832
00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:12,319
the thing and seeing

833
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:14,160
binary code and that binary code

834
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:16,240
translating to like gps coordinates

835
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:17,440
around the world and

836
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:20,800
equally anything of it a message

837
00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:27,030
or something yeah wasn't it eight

838
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:29,040
thousand years or something it was from

839
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:30,000
yeah

840
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:38,630
sounds pretty cool i'll go that's fine

841
00:42:43,829 --> 00:42:41,680
um so yesterday

842
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:43,839
on i watched it on an identified

843
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:44,880
celebrity review

844
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:47,680
um you mentioned there is 13 more

845
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:48,880
minutes with eric

846
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:53,359
davis um

847
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:55,280
so is that the episode where he

848
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:03,750
so him talking about the wilson davis

849
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:06,640
documents is all of like 90 seconds

850
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:08,800
for me asking him about it to us moving

851
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:11,119
on is 90 seconds he didn't

852
00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:14,560
he didn't say no comment or

853
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:17,119
yes or no he just said i'm not talking

854
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:18,240
about it

855
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:21,520
like i'm not gonna talk about that um

856
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:24,640
but no so we released a bonus episode so

857
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,000
eric davis shows up in

858
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:28,400
episode seven of the basement office and

859
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:30,640
then we released a bonus episode where

860
00:43:33,829 --> 00:43:32,000
it's just like me and him talking about

861
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:33,839
random stuff you know he talks about how

862
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,920
a tip never ended how he's still part of

863
00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:37,680
atip how he's still

864
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:39,839
working for the pentagon as a contractor

865
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:41,040
with ufos

866
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:44,160
um and then there's even more

867
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:46,800
that hasn't been released yet i mean

868
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:48,480
i'll just

869
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:50,640
give you an exclusive man if you want to

870
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:51,680
know what he said

871
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:54,560
so um in the 13 minutes that haven't

872
00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:55,440
been released

873
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:58,560
eric i asked eric davis all of this

874
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,200
leads to an

875
00:44:02,309 --> 00:44:01,760
ultimate truth you know all of it leads

876
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:02,319
somewhere

877
00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:05,520
to some kind of defined truth what is

878
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:06,640
your opinion of what

879
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:09,760
that is and eric davis says he thinks

880
00:44:13,910 --> 00:44:12,160
they're aliens like without any

881
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:13,920
hesitation

882
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:16,319
astrophysicists said aliens not like

883
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:17,359
enter anything

884
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:22,720
or aliens so eric davis without a doubt

885
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:24,960
an astrophysicist rocket scientist

886
00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:26,960
current contractor for the

887
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:29,280
u.s government says i believe they are

888
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:30,960
aliens

889
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:34,160
and wow um he says uh his

890
00:44:39,430 --> 00:44:37,200
boss has a different theory

891
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:39,440
and i i think he was referring to how

892
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:40,319
put off

893
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:41,920
like i think he was referring to yeah

894
00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:43,599
that was his boss yeah

895
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:46,640
you know eric says things like

896
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:48,960
it could be aliens hiding in the shadow

897
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:50,160
biome

898
00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:53,359
which is goes along with what lou said

899
00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:54,720
about sea monsters like

900
00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:56,240
things in front of your eyes that you

901
00:45:00,630 --> 00:44:58,480
can't perceive that you can't see

902
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:00,640
and he he opens it up that like they

903
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:02,640
could be alien

904
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:05,040
uh in a literal sense or a

905
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,480
interdimensional sense

906
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:08,319
meaning extraterrestrial but also

907
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:09,920
interdimensional

908
00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:13,119
right you know um but you know here's

909
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:14,560
the thing that's great

910
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:17,599
yeah here's the thing that's uh

911
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:19,280
and he actually goes up so eric davis

912
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:21,119
goes on for like five minutes about

913
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:23,280
his personal theory about what he thinks

914
00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:24,960
who is behind the wheel and then

915
00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:26,319
[Music]

916
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:28,160
um well it made me ask is sorry to

917
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:30,400
interrupt was like i remember that time

918
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:32,000
and i remember when that episode came

919
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:33,680
out and there were like little snippets

920
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:35,680
he posted online about like the wilson

921
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:36,400
stuff

922
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:38,160
and i was like well what the heck is

923
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:41,200
this i want to know

924
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:44,079
yeah yeah that's why i mentioned it yeah

925
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:46,640
the wilson stuff is was like a whole

926
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:47,920
nother thing so

927
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:51,040
um for clarity for clarity sense

928
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:54,319
the interview with eric davis and

929
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:57,040
the discussion that i filmed with nick

930
00:46:01,829 --> 00:45:58,720
pope on the wilson ducks

931
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:01,839
was december 2019

932
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:04,640
that's a while ago at this point it is

933
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:05,680
um

934
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:09,839
and so anyway yeah so

935
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:14,400
we had a 13 14 minute episode on the

936
00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:17,920
wilson davis thing it includes eric

937
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:19,040
davis

938
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:21,040
it includes like 12 minutes of me and

939
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:22,400
nick pope analyzing it

940
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:24,960
talking about it getting rather deep

941
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:26,319
into it

942
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:30,000
and then it includes a uh i talked to

943
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:31,920
i actually talked to admiral wilson

944
00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:33,280
himself

945
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:35,790
whoa i actually talked to albert wilson

946
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:36,960
[Music]

947
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:40,000
i confirmed tonight

948
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:42,800
oh 100 tonight and this isn't the first

949
00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:43,359
time

950
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:45,200
i wasn't i'm not the first guy he's

951
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:47,920
denied this to but yeah that's true

952
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:49,760
well i remember black fault actually

953
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:51,119
like posted an

954
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:54,480
article about like from some

955
00:46:58,870 --> 00:46:56,240
or from some newspaper i think in

956
00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:58,880
florida that had talked to him

957
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:00,800
and asked him about this and he denied

958
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:02,640
it or whatever but it's interesting

959
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:04,560
because i clicked on that article

960
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:11,990
yeah i saw that article and so that was

961
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:14,640
taken down in the other guy's article

962
00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:16,480
and that same guy has another article

963
00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:17,839
where he

964
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:20,240
uh it's about a secondhand witness that

965
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:20,960
said

966
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:23,280
wilson never talked about ufos like he's

967
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:24,160
gonna just

968
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:25,839
trot around the office talking about

969
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:27,440
ufos

970
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:29,280
but um but that was still there but

971
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:30,800
anyways i appreciate you

972
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:33,760
um you know about that because it was

973
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:34,960
very curious

974
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:38,319
yes the wilson the wilson davis episode

975
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:41,520
as a as a video

976
00:47:48,710 --> 00:47:45,040
as a story as a presentation of a story

977
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:48,720
i love it i had

978
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:51,200
i had so much fun i had so much fun

979
00:47:54,309 --> 00:47:52,160
putting it together

980
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:54,319
it's a cool little mystery it's a cool

981
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:55,440
little mystery

982
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,880
and i'll say like um you know admiral

983
00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,400
wilson of course denies

984
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:02,400
ever meeting eric davis knowing who he

985
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:04,079
even is of course the meeting never

986
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:05,040
happened

987
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:07,839
all that stuff but um if you look at the

988
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:09,599
actual

989
00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:13,520
davis transcript

990
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:16,640
yeah wilson supposedly says

991
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:19,680
to davis if this ever leaks i will deny

992
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:19,920
i

993
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:24,000
and what he told me

994
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:25,680
on the record was i don't know eric

995
00:48:29,690 --> 00:48:28,160
davis i have never met him

996
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:29,700
but which i thought was kind of cool

997
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:32,160
[Laughter]

998
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:35,680
well right so you're saying

999
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:39,200
that maybe okay

1000
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:41,440
yeah that's interesting well i mean he's

1001
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:42,960
doing what he said he would if he knew

1002
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:44,000
him so

1003
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:47,200
you can take that how you want i guess

1004
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:49,119
oh man yeah that would be great to see

1005
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:50,480
that any way you can

1006
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:54,079
you know separate from who your boss is

1007
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:54,480
and

1008
00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:01,520
no of course not but yeah but the um

1009
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:03,440
it's like what i told them yesterday is

1010
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:04,720
like

1011
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:11,760
there's a lot of of stuff that needs

1012
00:49:15,510 --> 00:49:13,119
tightening and buttoning that

1013
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:15,520
buttoning up in that story you know you

1014
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:16,720
as a piece of fan

1015
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:19,839
fiction as a piece of science fiction as

1016
00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:22,480
a piece of folklore or urban legend

1017
00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:25,599
yeah sure but as a piece of journalism

1018
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:28,079
i'm i'm bringing you the facts and

1019
00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:29,760
evidence and the pros and cons and

1020
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:31,760
here's what's true and not true

1021
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:34,240
that's a tough one to crack you know

1022
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:36,079
well i respect you for

1023
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:37,680
you know having that integrity because

1024
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:39,599
what attracted me to your basement

1025
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:41,040
office episodes at first

1026
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:44,160
was the the commitment

1027
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:47,359
to details but not only

1028
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:49,040
that but you're not pushing a certain

1029
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:51,599
narrative or aspect of it you're just

1030
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:54,000
presenting what we know about a bizarre

1031
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:55,200
situation

1032
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:58,240
and every time i'm done watching one of

1033
00:50:02,069 --> 00:49:59,359
your episodes

1034
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:02,079
i feel like i leave with a different

1035
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:08,950
you know like like the nazi bell and all

1036
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:10,000
that stuff like

1037
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:13,280
and tom de long even said that

1038
00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:17,440
roswell was a nazi thing on joe rogan

1039
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:20,240
and so wow that is so unlike tom's along

1040
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:22,160
to say something like that

1041
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:26,800
he was that's funny yeah

1042
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:30,240
at first i was like are you kidding me

1043
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,680
but you know i it adds up like there's

1044
00:50:37,430 --> 00:50:35,520
like i was just watching your episode on

1045
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:37,440
that uh with the nazi bell and

1046
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:39,760
pennsylvania and all that stuff and dude

1047
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,480
i love

1048
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:42,720
you so by the way that episode whatever

1049
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:43,839
that is nine

1050
00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:47,520
i think the episode nine the nazis

1051
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:50,319
i had so much fun like researching that

1052
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:52,240
and then like discussing that with nick

1053
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:54,000
putting that together because it's so

1054
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:55,280
bonkers

1055
00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:58,160
like antarctica like i am i am obsessed

1056
00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,280
yeah

1057
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:02,160
yes you were showing me the pictures

1058
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:03,119
yeah and all the

1059
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:05,280
folklore and all the google earth images

1060
00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:07,599
and all the stories connected to that

1061
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:09,920
and like there's a hidden secret nazi

1062
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:11,760
alien based in antarctica like

1063
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:14,559
what i have well the thing is like

1064
00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:15,040
there's

1065
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:17,440
something underneath everything that has

1066
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:20,000
a heavy gravitational pull like what

1067
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:23,119
is that and then the picture of the

1068
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:24,960
alien face it was so funny because

1069
00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:25,839
you're like

1070
00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:28,160
you know yeah there's a condition where

1071
00:51:30,549 --> 00:51:29,839
you kind of see what you want and things

1072
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:30,559
but

1073
00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:32,480
[\h__\h] this really looks like an alien

1074
00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:33,920
face

1075
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:36,319
it looks exactly like an alien it's

1076
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:37,680
ridiculous

1077
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:41,280
yeah in the people you know it's crazy

1078
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:43,119
yeah that alien face by the way i was

1079
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:44,720
like [\h__\h] like this is

1080
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:46,480
photoshopped but if you go to google

1081
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:49,119
earth and zoom in from space you're like

1082
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:50,480
oh [\h__\h] that's a new

1083
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:55,670
that's pretty awesome no wonder we never

1084
00:52:02,069 --> 00:51:58,160
meet you you're gigantic

1085
00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:02,079
yeah um yeah but that episode was that

1086
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:04,079
episode was fun because you know but

1087
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:05,839
what i what we did in that episode is

1088
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:07,040
like here are the facts

1089
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:10,079
here's what we know here's the proof and

1090
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:10,800
here's

1091
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:12,960
compared to the folklore the rumors and

1092
00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:14,640
the evidence kind of outweighs the

1093
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:16,160
rumors and

1094
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:18,400
and all the embellishment and stuff

1095
00:52:22,470 --> 00:52:19,839
crazy

1096
00:52:24,190 --> 00:52:22,480
well i mean then the project paperclip

1097
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:24,200
must have been something to those guys

1098
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:25,680
[Laughter]

1099
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:26,960
you know yeah we're going out there and

1100
00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:29,119
trying to recruit their top scientists

1101
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:32,559
uh from a nazi germany like

1102
00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:34,880
it must be worth it somehow they had

1103
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:35,920
something they had

1104
00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:39,200
something we wanted exactly yeah

1105
00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:42,400
um are you gonna make more

1106
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:47,270
i mean for the time being so we're in a

1107
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:48,880
weird place where

1108
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:50,800
no one's going to the office and the

1109
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:52,000
basement office

1110
00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:55,520
studio like the actual studio

1111
00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:57,200
it's like locked down like no one's

1112
00:53:02,470 --> 00:52:58,880
going no one's there

1113
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:02,480
so as in like more traditional episodes

1114
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:03,599
with like on

1115
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:07,040
set for cameras high you know tons of

1116
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:07,920
graphics

1117
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:10,960
probably not anytime soon but you

1118
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:11,760
probably

1119
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:15,200
like what i did with lou elizondo

1120
00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:16,160
recently

1121
00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:18,480
okay you know where i interviewed lou

1122
00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:21,040
and spliced in some b-roll and images

1123
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:22,720
but it's mostly just like a raw

1124
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:24,720
interview sure we'll probably be doing

1125
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,960
more stuff like that for the time being

1126
00:53:31,109 --> 00:53:28,400
for what it's worth i think you have a

1127
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:31,119
lot to offer and i think you're a great

1128
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:34,160
face and personality in this topic

1129
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:37,359
granted i've only been looking into this

1130
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:39,920
for maybe a year or so generally aware

1131
00:53:44,309 --> 00:53:41,599
for a lot longer obviously

1132
00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:44,319
but you know i really just was happy

1133
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:45,920
when i came across here

1134
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:48,960
and still i'm so don't go away whatever

1135
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:51,040
it is it's about what you're creating

1136
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:53,440
not the actual show or whatever you know

1137
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:54,720
you're bringing the magic

1138
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:56,559
so oh thank you whatever appreciate it i

1139
00:54:01,270 --> 00:53:57,839
hope i you know

1140
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:01,280
yeah i yeah i mean i don't know if i

1141
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:03,839
would refer to what i bring as magic

1142
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:08,319
but i'm happy i think so

1143
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:11,520
i mean it's captivating and um i don't

1144
00:54:15,349 --> 00:54:13,040
take my eyes off of it out

1145
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:15,359
at all or roll my eyes like it's really

1146
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:16,880
easy to watch

1147
00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:20,160
um ancient aliens for instance and just

1148
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:21,710
go okay

1149
00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:23,119
[Music]

1150
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:26,480
you know but yeah the stories you bring

1151
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:28,720
are just as bizarre but you're so

1152
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:31,359
selected with them

1153
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:34,319
because uh they actually include like

1154
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:36,240
real crazy facts

1155
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:38,960
yeah the thing you know i i want it when

1156
00:55:14,870 --> 00:54:40,240
i

1157
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:14,880
a real [\h__\h] yes you know no

1158
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:18,400
i understand because i think

1159
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:20,960
well at least to me my opinion is at the

1160
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:22,960
end of the day

1161
00:55:26,950 --> 00:55:24,400
how we're really going to find out the

1162
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:26,960
truth about this and really anything

1163
00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:30,640
is through ourselves and our own truth

1164
00:55:36,789 --> 00:55:34,640
um you know in being honest with

1165
00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:36,799
with who we are and how we deal with

1166
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:38,319
things um

1167
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:40,880
you know even no matter what is

1168
00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:42,720
confirmed and report or not

1169
00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:44,079
there's still going to be so many more

1170
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:46,799
questions in how we deal with this stuff

1171
00:55:51,990 --> 00:55:50,640
you know um and i think it's important

1172
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:52,000
to

1173
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:54,160
do that like these are the facts i'm

1174
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:55,119
taking this

1175
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:58,000
serious i'm laughing but i'm really

1176
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:59,359
trying to figure something out here

1177
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:01,520
you know yeah and that's what your show

1178
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:03,119
is to me so

1179
00:56:06,549 --> 00:56:05,599
and that would be my advice still right

1180
00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:06,559
now today

1181
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:09,920
is um please

1182
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:12,319
i mean it's all i have a thread on my

1183
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:13,440
twitter

1184
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:17,119
an ongoing thread about drones

1185
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:20,799
balloons adversarial capabilities

1186
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:23,839
via both of those recent cases that seem

1187
00:56:28,390 --> 00:56:26,000
to be not extraordinary not otherworldly

1188
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:28,400
but something extremely

1189
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:31,359
you know dangerous and and potentially

1190
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:33,280
threatening to national security

1191
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:36,319
and i i know it's easy and fun to say

1192
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:38,000
all of this is ufos but i want to

1193
00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:39,680
re-emphasize again and everyone

1194
00:56:43,990 --> 00:56:41,520
listening to please

1195
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:44,000
go look at the navy hazard reports that

1196
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:44,880
you know

1197
00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:48,319
the war zone got and and read those

1198
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:50,880
because they're saying something else

1199
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:52,000
than what you're reading about in the

1200
00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:53,119
headlines there's something

1201
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:55,359
real going on the dangerous part about

1202
00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:56,720
that is

1203
00:57:02,150 --> 00:57:00,400
like if you get too invested or deflated

1204
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:02,160
by looking at and go oh drones

1205
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:05,599
and lose any sort of passion to get

1206
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:06,160
truth

1207
00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:07,200
from the government that could be

1208
00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:10,000
dangerous but

1209
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:12,400
you know it's all in the eyes of the

1210
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:13,839
beholder i suppose if you can be

1211
00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:15,520
responsible with that information and

1212
00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:16,319
still know

1213
00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:18,240
that there are ufos and we need that

1214
00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:20,480
transparency that's fine

1215
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:22,480
um yeah but you know it can also be

1216
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:24,799
conflated to the wrong person

1217
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:27,760
yeah i believe i believe there are cases

1218
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:30,880
real cases that are unexplained

1219
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:33,280
otherworldly i mean the belgian wave you

1220
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:34,240
know in the uh

1221
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:37,200
in the early 90s the tic tac case in in

1222
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:38,400
2004

1223
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:40,960
that saint claire illinois triangle of

1224
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:42,480
the year 2000

1225
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:45,920
um these are crazy unexplainable cases

1226
00:57:49,589 --> 00:57:47,359
um i don't think they are those exist

1227
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:49,599
yeah totally yeah

1228
00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:51,920
but i honestly believe and i think tyler

1229
00:57:56,950 --> 00:57:53,119
rogoy puts

1230
00:57:58,710 --> 00:57:56,960
a good case that china and or russia

1231
00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:58,720
are right off the coast of the united

1232
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:00,880
states flying [\h__\h]

1233
00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:03,760
buzzing our warplanes buzzing our

1234
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:04,880
warships

1235
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:06,480
they're right off the coast they're not

1236
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:08,720
they're right here there were cases of

1237
00:58:12,789 --> 00:58:09,680
of

1238
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:12,799
uh over um arizona nuclear sites in

1239
00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:13,680
arizona

1240
00:58:17,349 --> 00:58:15,520
there are uh you know you've got drones

1241
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:17,359
forums just recently i believe it was up

1242
00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:19,359
in ohio or michigan

1243
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:22,880
um you've got over our anti-ballistic

1244
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:25,440
missile site in guam

1245
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:28,720
these aren't otherworldly craft these

1246
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:29,200
are

1247
00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:31,280
terrestrial looking quadcopter type

1248
00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:32,480
drones that

1249
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:34,799
still remain unidentified and they're

1250
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:36,480
over our airspace

1251
00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:39,760
and china and russia have a precedent

1252
00:58:44,789 --> 00:58:41,680
historical precedent for wanting to

1253
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:44,799
kill us aliens don't

1254
00:58:48,549 --> 00:58:46,400
you know so i think good point let's

1255
00:58:51,190 --> 00:58:48,559
let's focus let's focus on that

1256
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:51,200
precedent first and get those cases to

1257
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:53,280
the forefront hey what's really going on

1258
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:53,920
here

1259
00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:56,000
could an adversary be taking advantage

1260
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:57,520
of of ufos

1261
00:59:01,589 --> 00:58:59,520
you know well loom actually made a great

1262
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:01,599
point and i forget where he said this

1263
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:03,680
actually was at the observation deck

1264
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:04,720
thing that he did

1265
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:07,920
he said um you know

1266
00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:11,200
as time goes on it's going to become

1267
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:13,760
increasingly even more difficult to

1268
00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:14,400
separate

1269
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:18,319
uap from a drone you know

1270
00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:20,240
because technology is advancing so

1271
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:23,040
rapidly and if you think about

1272
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:24,640
some of the other things lou said like

1273
00:59:28,549 --> 00:59:27,200
hey we could be the last country looking

1274
00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:28,559
at this stuff seriously

1275
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:30,559
what does that mean for advancements of

1276
00:59:32,789 --> 00:59:32,079
other countries does that mean they

1277
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:32,799
already have

1278
00:59:36,230 --> 00:59:35,440
like uab technology and they're working

1279
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:36,240
on you know

1280
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:38,960
working it out because they were ahead

1281
00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:40,240
of the game they were before us

1282
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:41,280
according to lou

1283
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:44,480
so um yeah you know and why would we be

1284
00:59:47,109 --> 00:59:46,000
so smart to be able to figure that out

1285
00:59:49,750 --> 00:59:47,119
before them

1286
00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:49,760
you know being late to the game so it's

1287
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:50,319
weird

1288
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:53,920
yeah but um you have definitely went

1289
00:59:58,390 --> 00:59:54,640
over

1290
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:58,400
uh the time that you said you'd give me

1291
01:00:06,390 --> 00:59:59,280
so

1292
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:06,400
eastern

1293
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:08,960
right so i think we got 15. oh if you

1294
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:10,400
want to keep me here

1295
01:00:15,750 --> 01:00:13,359
i'm happy for sure i keep screwing up my

1296
01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:15,760
time zones i got people from amsterdam

1297
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:19,200
united kingdom california i'm like wait

1298
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:20,000
no it's i know

1299
01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:23,920
five o'clock your time no no six yeah

1300
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:25,760
some people are gonna use army time

1301
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:27,200
makes sense

1302
01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:35,670
so we can talk about whatever is it hard

1303
01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:37,760
yeah no sure that's cool is it hard for

1304
01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:43,190
it doesn't sound like it well how far

1305
01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:44,640
removed are you from your personal

1306
01:00:51,510 --> 01:00:47,040
experience

1307
01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:51,520
um how long ago was it oh so 2003

1308
01:00:57,109 --> 01:00:54,640
uh fall i think november 2003 so that's

1309
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:57,119
a while ago whatever that is

1310
01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:00,480
16 17 i guess almost

1311
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:03,599
yeah i know 17 um

1312
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:07,040
good lord how old was that i was like 20

1313
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:10,799
23 or 24

1314
01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:19,119
and do you does that still influence

1315
01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:20,880
your decision-making at all and what you

1316
01:01:31,510 --> 01:01:28,309
no it doesn't affect it

1317
01:01:33,430 --> 01:01:31,520
magnifies it it doesn't guide me meaning

1318
01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:33,440
it doesn't like guide me to

1319
01:01:37,270 --> 01:01:35,680
to do whatever but it magnifies it

1320
01:01:40,309 --> 01:01:37,280
meaning right

1321
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:40,319
when i read cases about like uh

1322
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:43,440
the saint clair triangle of illinois

1323
01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:50,950
police officers law enforcement

1324
01:01:55,349 --> 01:01:52,319
documented

1325
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:55,359
massive silent triangle

1326
01:01:59,109 --> 01:01:57,440
so when i read that having had my

1327
01:02:02,309 --> 01:01:59,119
experience i'm like

1328
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:02,319
ah okay so i can empathize with that i

1329
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:03,359
can

1330
01:02:06,789 --> 01:02:05,520
feel that you know because i saw a

1331
01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:06,799
massive black

1332
01:02:12,950 --> 01:02:10,640
triangle low in the sky that was silent

1333
01:02:14,710 --> 01:02:12,960
so i can relate to that so it does

1334
01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:14,720
magnify

1335
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:16,559
how i read and interpret stuff but it

1336
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:18,960
doesn't like define me i don't think

1337
01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:20,880
maybe it brings some i don't need to do

1338
01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:22,880
it maybe i

1339
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:25,520
yeah like maybe if i underwent like

1340
01:02:31,270 --> 01:02:28,079
regressive hypnosis

1341
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:31,280
like maybe something crazy happens

1342
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:33,119
there's a part of me that really wants

1343
01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:34,960
to try that but is also

1344
01:02:41,589 --> 01:02:38,400
very afraid and the more i hear about it

1345
01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:41,599
the more it's kind of i hear it's not so

1346
01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:45,119
hot or reliable um just because of the

1347
01:02:49,029 --> 01:02:45,839
power the

1348
01:02:51,589 --> 01:02:49,039
person doing the hypnotizing has over it

1349
01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:51,599
so it's hard to find someone good yeah

1350
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:54,720
the suggestibility is definitely sketchy

1351
01:02:57,750 --> 01:02:56,240
do you have any other weird stuff ever

1352
01:03:02,069 --> 01:02:57,760
happening in like weird

1353
01:03:06,150 --> 01:03:02,079
premonition dreams or intuitions that

1354
01:03:10,470 --> 01:03:06,160
kind of shook you or anything like that

1355
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,630
all right i like going to the real stuff

1356
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,910
so since you asked

1357
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:21,510
okay so i haven't told many people this

1358
01:03:25,990 --> 01:03:22,079
actually

1359
01:03:30,789 --> 01:03:26,000
not many people know this um

1360
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:30,799
how do i how i cue this up okay so

1361
01:03:36,870 --> 01:03:33,920
when i was very young let me just

1362
01:03:37,750 --> 01:03:36,880
do it up like this like can you sean

1363
01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:37,760
like can you

1364
01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:40,880
remember vividly from beginning to end a

1365
01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:42,480
dream you had when you were

1366
01:03:46,150 --> 01:03:44,720
five or six like can you remember the

1367
01:03:47,029 --> 01:03:46,160
entire dream do you still have that

1368
01:03:49,510 --> 01:03:47,039
memory

1369
01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:49,520
or is it a little fuzzy at this point

1370
01:03:52,710 --> 01:03:50,799
yeah five or six

1371
01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:52,720
is especially what i did in high school

1372
01:03:58,390 --> 01:03:54,880
and afterwards fuzzy yeah

1373
01:03:59,750 --> 01:03:58,400
fuzzy right so i had a dream when i was

1374
01:04:03,349 --> 01:03:59,760
like five or six

1375
01:04:05,829 --> 01:04:03,359
that's vivid to this day

1376
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:05,839
almost as if it was like a really strong

1377
01:04:11,510 --> 01:04:08,000
memory

1378
01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:11,520
and and what's crazy is like um

1379
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:13,680
by the way i've had that just not at

1380
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:15,839
that age

1381
01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:18,240
yeah but this was like when i was young

1382
01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:19,599
okay so i'll share the story

1383
01:04:25,670 --> 01:04:22,880
with the um context that being

1384
01:04:26,789 --> 01:04:25,680
i believe it was a journey or some you

1385
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:26,799
know

1386
01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:31,280
probably a journey i hope it was a dream

1387
01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:34,480
sure uh but uh because it's so weird

1388
01:04:38,150 --> 01:04:35,920
that i don't really tell that many

1389
01:04:41,430 --> 01:04:38,160
people but okay so anyway here we go

1390
01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:41,440
um the dream starts with me standing

1391
01:04:45,910 --> 01:04:43,680
i shared a bedroom with my brother my

1392
01:04:47,910 --> 01:04:45,920
younger brother at this time

1393
01:04:49,990 --> 01:04:47,920
and uh we shared a bedroom there two

1394
01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:50,000
beds the dream begins with me

1395
01:04:56,470 --> 01:04:53,119
in the doorway of the bedroom looking in

1396
01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:56,480
and i can't move and

1397
01:05:02,309 --> 01:04:59,599
my brother's in bed screaming

1398
01:05:03,270 --> 01:05:02,319
and apparently can't move there is a

1399
01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:03,280
humming

1400
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:06,160
sound there is a bright white light

1401
01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:08,160
coming in through the window

1402
01:05:11,910 --> 01:05:10,000
and then in my five-year-old

1403
01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:11,920
six-year-old brain

1404
01:05:19,109 --> 01:05:16,799
what i thought was the a disney goat

1405
01:05:22,069 --> 01:05:19,119
came out of the closet and took my

1406
01:05:25,910 --> 01:05:22,079
brother away

1407
01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:25,920
so a when i was five or six i'd look

1408
01:05:31,829 --> 01:05:28,240
like a disney ghost but like

1409
01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:31,839
the older i got like what i what i saw

1410
01:05:38,630 --> 01:05:35,680
was a big like whitish grayish

1411
01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:38,640
uh thing with big black eyes and at the

1412
01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:39,920
time when i was young i was like that

1413
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:40,559
looks like a

1414
01:05:47,990 --> 01:05:44,160
ghost that i saw in the disney movie um

1415
01:05:51,270 --> 01:05:48,000
but anyway so i remember that his day

1416
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:51,280
vividly but who knows i mean maybe i saw

1417
01:05:53,829 --> 01:05:51,599
like

1418
01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:53,839
i don't know e key or my parents had on

1419
01:05:58,950 --> 01:05:55,599
some sci-fi movie

1420
01:06:00,309 --> 01:05:58,960
abducted bro no but see i was witnessing

1421
01:06:02,309 --> 01:06:00,319
it

1422
01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:02,319
i wasn't i was singing watching that

1423
01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:03,599
reminds me of someone else

1424
01:06:10,710 --> 01:06:07,599
communion like in the wife watches

1425
01:06:13,109 --> 01:06:10,720
uh what's his face christopher walken

1426
01:06:15,109 --> 01:06:13,119
get abducted and he's torn out of the

1427
01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:15,119
bed and she's like uh

1428
01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:20,480
wow that's if crazy haven't had

1429
01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:23,119
any dreams well i mean i've had a lot of

1430
01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:24,960
intense dreams i sleep talk every night

1431
01:06:30,150 --> 01:06:26,559
which is really weird

1432
01:06:32,789 --> 01:06:30,160
but but the most

1433
01:06:33,349 --> 01:06:32,799
the craziest dream i've had i won't get

1434
01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:33,359
into

1435
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:34,880
because there's too many religious

1436
01:06:40,069 --> 01:06:36,720
connotations and

1437
01:06:44,309 --> 01:06:42,230
all right um i'll share with you because

1438
01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:44,319
you are vulnerable i have to be too

1439
01:06:50,789 --> 01:06:47,680
so um okay

1440
01:06:54,150 --> 01:06:50,799
so it started with me um

1441
01:06:58,829 --> 01:06:54,160
going and this is i'm probably

1442
01:07:01,829 --> 01:06:58,839
18 19. i'm 37 now so around 20 years ago

1443
01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:01,839
um

1444
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:03,760
i go i'm at this school i'm in this

1445
01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:05,920
playground like at just a typical school

1446
01:07:09,990 --> 01:07:07,440
with basketball courts outside

1447
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:10,000
cement you know pavement everything and

1448
01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:11,119
brick building school

1449
01:07:18,390 --> 01:07:14,960
i go into these front doors

1450
01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:18,400
uh double doors that open so i open them

1451
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:21,039
and at the desk it seemed like a like it

1452
01:07:24,069 --> 01:07:22,400
was a library or something

1453
01:07:26,150 --> 01:07:24,079
and the desk was like a round kind of

1454
01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:26,160
desk and there was a

1455
01:07:29,670 --> 01:07:28,000
middle eastern gentleman with the turban

1456
01:07:32,870 --> 01:07:29,680
on and he handed me

1457
01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:32,880
a scroll and i took the scroll

1458
01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:35,280
and started opening it and walking out

1459
01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:36,480
the door

1460
01:07:40,710 --> 01:07:39,200
i noticed that what was on it was seven

1461
01:07:44,069 --> 01:07:40,720
something that's all i know

1462
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:44,079
didn't know what a seven whatever

1463
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:46,960
so as i go outside uh the wind picks up

1464
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:48,880
and blows it out of my hands

1465
01:07:52,390 --> 01:07:51,520
and it blows down like towards the end

1466
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:52,400
of the

1467
01:07:59,829 --> 01:07:56,720
concrete park or whatever um

1468
01:08:00,390 --> 01:07:59,839
so that happens and i look forward and

1469
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:00,400
two

1470
01:08:07,109 --> 01:08:04,079
giant tornadoes are coming right at me

1471
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:07,119
so as they're coming at me i

1472
01:08:14,069 --> 01:08:10,880
have this conscious thought of i can

1473
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:14,079
run or fight and

1474
01:08:19,749 --> 01:08:17,839
i decided to fight so i stayed there

1475
01:08:21,510 --> 01:08:19,759
and the tornadoes were coming and i

1476
01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:21,520
grabbed each one when they got to me

1477
01:08:26,149 --> 01:08:22,880
with each hand

1478
01:08:27,910 --> 01:08:26,159
and i cross my arms like this and like

1479
01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:27,920
through the tornadoes by each other

1480
01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:31,040
and all of a sudden i'm stuck in like

1481
01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:32,080
this little

1482
01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:34,400
kind of tunnel of wind almost but not

1483
01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:36,080
like twister with

1484
01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:38,799
like that movie or anything just like

1485
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:40,239
just weird whisping

1486
01:08:46,229 --> 01:08:43,679
back and forth um and all of a sudden

1487
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:46,239
i start like floating upwards off the

1488
01:08:50,149 --> 01:08:46,960
ground

1489
01:08:52,390 --> 01:08:50,159
and i was used to flying in my dreams

1490
01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:52,400
i knew how to activate that feeling to

1491
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:54,400
make myself fly

1492
01:08:58,550 --> 01:08:56,319
um it was something i was very familiar

1493
01:09:03,189 --> 01:08:58,560
with this was not that it was

1494
01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:03,199
i was just going up as i'm doing it

1495
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:06,319
there's these like white

1496
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:08,640
for lack of a better word like spirit

1497
01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:09,440
things

1498
01:09:14,789 --> 01:09:12,960
um just flying by me and the most

1499
01:09:17,349 --> 01:09:14,799
beautiful music i've ever heard

1500
01:09:19,030 --> 01:09:17,359
in my life and i've never heard again

1501
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:19,040
was playing

1502
01:09:25,269 --> 01:09:22,080
the whole time um keep in mind

1503
01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:25,279
um i was starting really

1504
01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:27,359
a 20 year songwriting career at that

1505
01:09:34,309 --> 01:09:29,040
point

1506
01:09:37,829 --> 01:09:34,319
so that's happening

1507
01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:37,839
lifting up and

1508
01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:39,279
things start to clear up a little bit

1509
01:09:44,470 --> 01:09:41,040
and i just look forward

1510
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:44,480
and i see what it looks like uh well

1511
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:48,239
it was a stained glass like window

1512
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:50,719
with a picture of jesus christ's face on

1513
01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:55,590
and then or what we know to be and then

1514
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:58,000
it starts coming at me

1515
01:10:01,990 --> 01:10:00,560
and as it gets in front of my face it

1516
01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:02,000
turns into a real

1517
01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:06,560
face and he looks at me and he says sean

1518
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:10,080
just stop worrying and go back to school

1519
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:18,390
to this day i don't know what that means

1520
01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:20,080
go back to school the only way i can

1521
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:21,840
take it is

1522
01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:24,880
at the time i was like petering out

1523
01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:27,920
of the non-denominational church

1524
01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:29,600
i grew up in and all that kind of stuff

1525
01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:31,760
and youth group couldn't answer my

1526
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:32,880
questions so

1527
01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:36,480
so i was starting to get away from that

1528
01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:39,520
um and but i was really in into like

1529
01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:41,120
revelations at the time look

1530
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:42,960
because that was like the only exciting

1531
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:45,840
book in the bible to me was revelations

1532
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:49,600
so i was reading that a lot and maybe

1533
01:10:53,510 --> 01:10:51,600
i don't know i don't know what it what

1534
01:10:56,830 --> 01:10:53,520
any of it means but it was a crazy dream

1535
01:11:03,910 --> 01:10:59,990
and

1536
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:03,920
someone who had a like religious

1537
01:11:08,790 --> 01:11:05,199
upbringing

1538
01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:08,800
know that was like part of everyday life

1539
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:10,239
for like the longest time like i could

1540
01:11:15,430 --> 01:11:11,760
empathize with

1541
01:11:18,310 --> 01:11:15,440
that being in there you know like

1542
01:11:18,790 --> 01:11:18,320
images stories and like hopes and dreams

1543
01:11:20,229 --> 01:11:18,800
are

1544
01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:20,239
like put through a certain filter

1545
01:11:26,070 --> 01:11:22,320
especially when you're so young and

1546
01:11:28,390 --> 01:11:26,080
and that coming out um in your dreams

1547
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:28,400
like so i can empathize with the

1548
01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:29,280
symbology

1549
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:31,840
and like when i hear the two tornadoes i

1550
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:32,960
think about the

1551
01:11:38,709 --> 01:11:36,239
the pillars of solomon's temple you know

1552
01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:38,719
and interesting i didn't even think that

1553
01:11:41,430 --> 01:11:39,679
the

1554
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:41,440
of solomon's temple and do you remember

1555
01:11:45,189 --> 01:11:43,280
um what's his name

1556
01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:45,199
cutting up the hair that's his name yeah

1557
01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:46,320
um

1558
01:11:53,350 --> 01:11:50,159
yes

1559
01:11:56,070 --> 01:11:53,360
how he breaks he greets his eye

1560
01:11:56,709 --> 01:11:56,080
and he breaks the pillars remember yeah

1561
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:56,719
remember

1562
01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:58,400
doesn't he like grab the pillars and

1563
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:00,000
break that he does

1564
01:12:04,870 --> 01:12:03,440
a temple falls so that's what i

1565
01:12:06,830 --> 01:12:04,880
that's why that's what i thought about

1566
01:12:09,189 --> 01:12:06,840
when you were telling about the

1567
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:09,199
tornadoes

1568
01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:10,800
yeah because i never even thought about

1569
01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:12,320
that thank you

1570
01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:14,640
yeah i know i know i'm not saying i'm

1571
01:12:21,510 --> 01:12:19,750
makes it make a little more sense i

1572
01:12:24,390 --> 01:12:21,520
guess

1573
01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:24,400
yeah yeah that's what i thought no did

1574
01:12:29,830 --> 01:12:26,480
thanks for sharing that because that's

1575
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:29,840
makes a lot of sense um all right i'll

1576
01:12:33,110 --> 01:12:30,239
give you

1577
01:12:34,870 --> 01:12:33,120
one more and this isn't as long it's

1578
01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:34,880
super quick

1579
01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:38,239
um so my dad had a twin brother he was a

1580
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:40,159
fraternal twin

1581
01:12:45,270 --> 01:12:43,120
and he got brain cancer and he was in

1582
01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:45,280
his mid-50s and he started dying they

1583
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:47,600
couldn't operate on it

1584
01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:50,320
and this was a and a long enough ago to

1585
01:12:52,550 --> 01:12:51,040
where

1586
01:12:54,070 --> 01:12:52,560
you don't have to apologize or anything

1587
01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:54,080
[Music]

1588
01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:57,199
and uh so he's got a brain tumor he's

1589
01:13:01,990 --> 01:12:58,800
dying he's in the nursing home

1590
01:13:03,669 --> 01:13:02,000
at this point um you know just living

1591
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:03,679
out his last

1592
01:13:10,229 --> 01:13:07,679
life um i remember i was gave him a

1593
01:13:11,669 --> 01:13:10,239
cassette tape that i had like played

1594
01:13:13,189 --> 01:13:11,679
guitar and sang on

1595
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:13,199
those are some of my first songs and i

1596
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:14,719
had him listen to it

1597
01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:16,239
and i remember asking him so what'd you

1598
01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:18,400
think and he was a total smart ass by

1599
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:19,120
the way

1600
01:13:24,070 --> 01:13:21,760
and he goes sounded like a bunch of nuns

1601
01:13:28,149 --> 01:13:24,080
moaning

1602
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:28,159
i was very like emo said kid so anyways

1603
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:35,350
so here's the dream so in mentoring

1604
01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:39,669
we're in his room um his like uh

1605
01:13:44,630 --> 01:13:42,159
i guess his what was his deathbed um but

1606
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:44,640
it was like a nursing home or whatever

1607
01:13:51,669 --> 01:13:48,080
and he's surrounded by people uh myself

1608
01:13:54,790 --> 01:13:51,679
i recognized his wife at the time

1609
01:13:58,310 --> 01:13:54,800
and that was really all i recognized

1610
01:14:01,110 --> 01:13:58,320
um he's sleeping on the bed

1611
01:14:01,910 --> 01:14:01,120
like puffed up all puffy you know how

1612
01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:01,920
people get

1613
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:04,960
um and i had this golden bowl

1614
01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:08,000
in my hand and i decided to

1615
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:11,199
throw it to him and as i threw it to him

1616
01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:14,560
he sat up opened his eyes caught the

1617
01:14:19,030 --> 01:14:15,760
bull

1618
01:14:20,950 --> 01:14:19,040
and at that same time the phone rang

1619
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:20,960
at my parents house i was living there

1620
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:23,040
at the time and it was the call

1621
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:31,350
that was weird

1622
01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:34,470
it was a golden bowl how big

1623
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:36,239
was it like this big just it was just

1624
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:38,000
like a yeah

1625
01:14:44,310 --> 01:14:41,440
it was like a solid size i guess

1626
01:14:45,430 --> 01:14:44,320
yeah almost like a you know baskets

1627
01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:45,440
except

1628
01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:48,480
yeah yeah um it was like two in the

1629
01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:50,320
morning or whatever and the

1630
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:52,800
phone woke me up and i just left that

1631
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:53,920
dream it was crazy

1632
01:14:59,280 --> 01:14:57,360
wow now i smoke a

1633
01:15:03,669 --> 01:14:59,290
bunch of medicine so i don't have dreams

1634
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:03,679
[Laughter]

1635
01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:06,880
so don't worry it's prescribed by myself

1636
01:15:13,350 --> 01:15:10,960
all right all right um

1637
01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:13,360
yeah so when do you think this report is

1638
01:15:22,470 --> 01:15:20,310
i don't know which report uap report

1639
01:15:24,310 --> 01:15:22,480
yeah i don't know all right it's got

1640
01:15:25,110 --> 01:15:24,320
something we're gonna get we're gonna

1641
01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:25,120
get something

1642
01:15:29,830 --> 01:15:28,480
in the next three weeks and yeah i agree

1643
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:29,840
with lou

1644
01:15:33,110 --> 01:15:31,840
that you know it takes longer to remodel

1645
01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:33,120
a kitchen than it does

1646
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:35,840
to like the time that they've had to

1647
01:15:40,390 --> 01:15:37,440
prepare this report and so

1648
01:15:42,070 --> 01:15:40,400
it makes sense to get an interim report

1649
01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:42,080
something quick and brief

1650
01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:45,040
and then hey we need 180 more days or

1651
01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:46,320
whatever

1652
01:15:50,390 --> 01:15:49,920
um extension wonder what an interim

1653
01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:50,400
report

1654
01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:53,520
even looks like you know hey honestly i

1655
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:54,159
think

1656
01:15:58,550 --> 01:15:58,080
be a sum up of everything we already

1657
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:58,560
know

1658
01:16:02,550 --> 01:16:00,719
like yeah everything the navy has said

1659
01:16:03,669 --> 01:16:02,560
the deal you know the the pentagon has

1660
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:03,679
said everything

1661
01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:05,440
every branch has already said just kind

1662
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:06,880
of like put together

1663
01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:09,280
aggregated into a interim like here's

1664
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:11,280
where we are

1665
01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:14,640
in the dna yeah

1666
01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:17,280
i don't i don't i would be surprised i

1667
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:18,640
mean the pentagon has gotten themselves

1668
01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:19,440
into it

1669
01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:21,440
huge mess when it comes to public

1670
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:22,960
affairs and their official

1671
01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:24,719
their official story on what the hell's

1672
01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:27,199
been going on the last couple years

1673
01:16:30,550 --> 01:16:29,760
and and even beyond you know a tip and

1674
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:30,560
all stuff but

1675
01:16:34,229 --> 01:16:33,280
they're just in a huge cluster right now

1676
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:34,239
and

1677
01:16:38,709 --> 01:16:36,320
i think they need time to sort that all

1678
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:38,719
out i would be surprised if anything

1679
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:40,480
definitive is released

1680
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:45,760
anytime soon that's where i stand yeah

1681
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:49,760
well all right mr pessimist

1682
01:16:53,110 --> 01:16:51,280
it's the first time i've been out

1683
01:16:56,950 --> 01:16:53,120
negative

1684
01:17:00,709 --> 01:16:56,960
i'm just cute yeah

1685
01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:00,719
yeah no i mean yeah they're in a mess

1686
01:17:05,030 --> 01:17:03,760
and so if anything whatever does come

1687
01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:05,040
out

1688
01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:07,760
they're gonna be very very careful with

1689
01:17:11,990 --> 01:17:08,560
it like a

1690
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:12,000
fragile vase because all the crap there

1691
01:17:15,189 --> 01:17:14,640
they got themselves in with especially

1692
01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:15,199
with lou

1693
01:17:18,550 --> 01:17:17,440
like um in john greenwald i feel so bad

1694
01:17:21,990 --> 01:17:18,560
for that guy

1695
01:17:23,350 --> 01:17:22,000
like three years like a passion project

1696
01:17:25,750 --> 01:17:23,360
almost at that point

1697
01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:25,760
and just for them to say oh yeah they

1698
01:17:29,189 --> 01:17:27,360
were deleted sorry boss

1699
01:17:30,550 --> 01:17:29,199
yeah we i know we were appealing and we

1700
01:17:32,950 --> 01:17:30,560
were going through the process

1701
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:32,960
like they existed but you know we

1702
01:17:37,990 --> 01:17:35,520
deleted them

1703
01:17:39,430 --> 01:17:38,000
absolutely incredible i just it's so oh

1704
01:17:39,910 --> 01:17:39,440
and by the way let me just take this up

1705
01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:39,920
duty

1706
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:42,640
i think lou is on greenwald's show

1707
01:17:46,229 --> 01:17:43,520
tonight

1708
01:17:48,070 --> 01:17:46,239
oh nice to answer directly about the

1709
01:17:50,550 --> 01:17:48,080
deleted emails which is pretty cool

1710
01:17:51,189 --> 01:17:50,560
cool yeah so if you guys didn't hear

1711
01:17:53,590 --> 01:17:51,199
that lou

1712
01:17:54,310 --> 01:17:53,600
is on the black vault tonight to talk

1713
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:54,320
about the

1714
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:58,719
deletion of the emails um which

1715
01:18:02,950 --> 01:18:00,000
you know you should definitely watch

1716
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:02,960
because this story is heating up and

1717
01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:04,800
you know it's these kind of things and

1718
01:18:10,149 --> 01:18:06,320
these stories that i think

1719
01:18:12,870 --> 01:18:10,159
ultimately will make the book you know

1720
01:18:13,510 --> 01:18:12,880
how people acted integrity no integrity

1721
01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:13,520
character

1722
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:17,360
lies um so watch it

1723
01:18:21,830 --> 01:18:20,880
and that's a baby and yeah you did

1724
01:18:25,189 --> 01:18:21,840
yourself

1725
01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:25,199
yeah yeah i've got a couple of them

1726
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:29,440
you have kids two congrats

1727
01:18:32,650 --> 01:18:31,360
yeah i don't have any my wife's still

1728
01:18:34,790 --> 01:18:32,660
deciding if she likes me

1729
01:18:37,030 --> 01:18:34,800
[Laughter]

1730
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:37,040
okay so you get you get more sleep than

1731
01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:39,040
me

1732
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:42,719
you would think probably my brother has

1733
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:46,960
five girls all under the age of 12.

1734
01:18:54,550 --> 01:18:50,560
i don't know 14 now yes sorry

1735
01:18:56,630 --> 01:18:54,560
wow wow i don't see him so

1736
01:18:58,149 --> 01:18:56,640
and he looks stressed out every time i

1737
01:18:59,750 --> 01:18:58,159
see him he's like

1738
01:19:02,550 --> 01:18:59,760
sleeping on the kitchen counter at my

1739
01:19:04,310 --> 01:19:02,560
mom's house here

1740
01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:04,320
all right well i'll let you go i had a

1741
01:19:07,189 --> 01:19:06,239
great talk with you today thanks so much

1742
01:19:10,550 --> 01:19:07,199
for your time

1743
01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:10,560
um of course it was one of my favorites

1744
01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:13,040
so and i'm a small guy and a small voice

1745
01:19:16,870 --> 01:19:14,320
here so

1746
01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:16,880
you sticking your neck out and donating

1747
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:18,239
that time and

1748
01:19:22,630 --> 01:19:20,960
being honest with that time as well

1749
01:19:24,229 --> 01:19:22,640
means a lot to me so

1750
01:19:25,910 --> 01:19:24,239
sure man i told you i haven't told

1751
01:19:29,110 --> 01:19:25,920
anyone

1752
01:19:31,189 --> 01:19:29,120
all right later man all right bye yeah

1753
01:19:34,830 --> 01:19:31,199
well let's talk again soon

1754
01:19:37,990 --> 01:19:34,840
uh that was a great talk

1755
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:38,000
um a lot of cool stuff happened there so

1756
01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:41,440
i'm gonna bounce you because i have a

1757
01:19:44,229 --> 01:19:43,040
lot to think about that was just a great

1758
01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:44,239
discussion

1759
01:19:51,669 --> 01:19:47,760
um go over it he said some great things

1760
01:19:54,149 --> 01:19:51,679
um about how we talked to

1761
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:54,159
eric davis for 13 minutes in an unaired

1762
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:55,040
episode

1763
01:19:58,630 --> 01:19:57,520
where eric davis said he believes

1764
01:20:02,470 --> 01:19:58,640
they're

1765
01:20:09,590 --> 01:20:06,390
so that's cool um

1766
01:20:11,750 --> 01:20:09,600
trivia uh trivia is

1767
01:20:14,709 --> 01:20:11,760
going to be tomorrow i can do some

1768
01:20:17,910 --> 01:20:14,719
trivia tomorrow is actually my 50th

1769
01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:17,920
episode so i'm gonna have a party i want

1770
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:18,880
people to show up

1771
01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:22,000
and party with me we'll do trivia um

1772
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:24,320
we'll make some more phone calls

1773
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:26,320
and hopefully some cool guests come by

1774
01:20:29,030 --> 01:20:28,000
one for sure is coming by and that's

1775
01:20:31,910 --> 01:20:29,040
dave from

1776
01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:31,920
shadows magazine out in the uk uh he's

1777
01:20:35,270 --> 01:20:33,840
writing a new issue now i think so

1778
01:20:37,510 --> 01:20:35,280
he should have a lot of cool stuff to

1779
01:20:41,750 --> 01:20:37,520
share um

1780
01:20:43,270 --> 01:20:41,760
yeah and today was one of those um

1781
01:20:44,709 --> 01:20:43,280
i can't say episodes that you'll

1782
01:20:47,030 --> 01:20:44,719
remember because i've only been doing

1783
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:47,040
this for a month but

1784
01:20:50,950 --> 01:20:49,760
uh it'll be one of those days that i'll

1785
01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:50,960
always remember

1786
01:20:58,629 --> 01:20:54,560
so uh with that being said

1787
01:21:00,790 --> 01:20:58,639
make a call call congress read an email

1788
01:21:09,220 --> 01:21:00,800
remember what the mission is action it's

1789
01:21:09,230 --> 01:21:12,830
[Music]

1790
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,510
peace

1791
01:21:42,930 --> 01:21:40,830
[Music]